Comments on: Prepare For Weight Loss, Part 6: Weight Goals http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/ Ruminations on Weight Loss, Health, and Longevity Via the Mediterranean Diet Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:37:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H. http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-525 James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H. Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:30:46 +0000 http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-525 Good advice. Goals are importan, short and long term thanks Good advice. Goals are importan, short and long term
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]]> By: zbiggy http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-565 zbiggy Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:43:14 +0000 http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-565 BMI is often criticized because it doesn't differentiate between the fat tissue and muscle mass (so a Mister Universum is probably overweight if not obese by this measure). Another thing, which I didn't know frankly saying, is the one about the elderly. Maybe it's like that: people in this range of age die pretty frequently and those of them who died because of some illness, are quite lean when weighed on the terminal day - so that's what suggests that the overweight are healthier? BMI is often criticized because it doesn’t differentiate between the fat tissue and muscle mass (so a Mister Universum is probably overweight if not obese by this measure).
Another thing, which I didn’t know frankly saying, is the one about the elderly. Maybe it’s like that: people in this range of age die pretty frequently and those of them who died because of some illness, are quite lean when weighed on the terminal day - so that’s what suggests that the overweight are healthier?

]]> By: Steve Parker, M.D. http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-587 Steve Parker, M.D. Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:43:55 +0000 http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-587 Hi, zbiggy. That's a reasonable criticism of BMI. I'm also aware of problems applying the BMI concept to to children. I think Sandy at JunkFoodScience.com wrote about that. It's not a perfect classification system, by any means. I'm not aware of a better one that can be cheaply applied to large populations. The studies looking at BMI and mortality rates typically take baseline weight/height measurements of, say, 50,000 people. Then they are followed for, say, 10 years. Undoubtedly, some of the people (in all BMI categories) at baseline were sick, such as having cancer, whether they new it or not. Then, observed mortality rates are tied in with baseline BMIs, not BMIs at death or at the end of the 10-year study. -Steve Hi, zbiggy.

That’s a reasonable criticism of BMI. I’m also aware of problems applying the BMI concept to to children. I think Sandy at JunkFoodScience.com wrote about that. It’s not a perfect classification system, by any means. I’m not aware of a better one that can be cheaply applied to large populations.

The studies looking at BMI and mortality rates typically take baseline weight/height measurements of, say, 50,000 people. Then they are followed for, say, 10 years. Undoubtedly, some of the people (in all BMI categories) at baseline were sick, such as having cancer, whether they new it or not. Then, observed mortality rates are tied in with baseline BMIs, not BMIs at death or at the end of the 10-year study.

-Steve

]]> By: Ben http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-784 Ben Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:39:19 +0000 http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-784 Hi Steve, I'm with zbiggby on BMI not accounting for fat tissue and muscle mass. In my country, Australia, the second major code of football played is Rugby League. I read an article last year that if just the BMI was used that just over 80% of the players would be classified as obese, admittedly at the low end of the BMI range for obesity. Rugby League is a high collision sport, so strength training and muscle mass, are two major training focuses. I've met a number of players from my city's town and trust me they don't look obese close up. Cheers Hi Steve,

I’m with zbiggby on BMI not accounting for fat tissue and muscle mass. In my country, Australia, the second major code of football played is Rugby League. I read an article last year that if just the BMI was used that just over 80% of the players would be classified as obese, admittedly at the low end of the BMI range for obesity.

Rugby League is a high collision sport, so strength training and muscle mass, are two major training focuses. I’ve met a number of players from my city’s town and trust me they don’t look obese close up.

Cheers

]]> By: Steve Parker, M.D. http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-788 Steve Parker, M.D. Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:56:59 +0000 http://advancedmediterraneandiet.com/blog/2008/12/10/prepare-for-weight-loss-part-6-weight-goals/#comment-788 Ben, I'm sure you're right about those rugby players. Ben, I’m sure you’re right about those rugby players.

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